{"id":1348,"date":"2017-03-03T15:32:02","date_gmt":"2017-03-03T14:32:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/?p=1348"},"modified":"2019-06-07T21:09:05","modified_gmt":"2019-06-07T19:09:05","slug":"why-we-call-it-muscovy-war-and-not-russiarf-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/2017\/03\/03\/why-we-call-it-muscovy-war-and-not-russiarf-war\/","title":{"rendered":"Why we call it Muscovy war and not russia\/RF war  ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/empr.media\/culture\/history\/first-mentioned-ukraine-russia-not-exists\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/empr.media\/culture\/history\/first-mentioned-ukraine-russia-not-exists\/<\/a><br \/>\n<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/russiawarinukraine\/comments\/37tryg\/muscovy_the_name_of_the_grand_duchy_of_moscow\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/russiawarinukraine\/comments\/37tryg\/muscovy_the_name_of_the_grand_duchy_of_moscow\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>=================================================<\/p>\n<p>Name RUS- Russia is stolen from Ukraine, so I revert to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Muscovy_%28disambiguation%29\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">old name.<\/a><br \/>\n(but now i was blocked on wikipedia trying to keep that name and facts about it!?- whats more important, wikipedia admins, facts or rules)<\/p>\n<p>The name of the<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Grand_Duchy_of_Moscow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> Grand Duchy of Moscow<\/a>, changed for <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Russia\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Russia<\/a> by <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Peter_the_Great\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Tsar Peter I<\/a> in the early 18th century. The goal of this change was to establish a connection between Muscovy and medieval state of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kievan_Rus%27\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Kievan Rus&#8217;<\/a>, thus claiming the right of<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Moscow\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> Moscow<\/a> to possess all the lands of <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rus&#8217;<\/a>. Muscovy was officially renamed by Russian imperial decree in 1721. The ethnonym <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Russian\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;Russian&#8221;<\/a> was fixed later &#8211; only at the end of the century, when <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Catherine_the_Great\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Empress Catherine II<\/a> of &#8220;the highest command&#8221; Moscow ordered the people called <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Russians\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;Russian people&#8221;<\/a> and forbade them to use the title of<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Muscovites\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> &#8220;Muscovites&#8221;.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>was changed to<\/p>\n<p>The Grand Duchy of Moscow, changed to the Tsardom of Russia by Tsar Ivan IV in 1547.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.nl\/books?id=eD5AkdM83iIC&#038;pg=PA241&#038;lpg=PA241&#038;dq=peter+the+great+1721+renaming+muscovy+to+russia&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=lQ40ZlFkR0&#038;sig=15m-TkIa_JeGc6fKg5MsPudvcuY&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=0ahUKEwi10bfLxdvQAhUEtBoKHYH4DTsQ6AEIKTAC#v=onepage&#038;q=peter%20the%20great%201721%20renaming%20muscovy%20to%20russia&#038;f=false\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"> WHICH IS NOT TRUE<\/a><br \/>\nwas renamed not from muscovy to tsardom of russia  in 1547 but was done in 1721 and renamed THEN from muscovy to russia.<\/p>\n<p>Proofs:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=qSn_0tBD_lE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">history channel ivan the terrible<\/a> no mention of tsardom Ivan Moscow, it is just called Muscovy &#038; Muscovites<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.karty.by\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Sebastian-Munster_Poloniae-Et-Ungariae-Nova-Descriptio1550.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Map of Poland and Hungary by Sebastian Munster,<\/a> 1550. The map shows \u201cRussia\u201d for Ukraine, \u201cRussia Alba\u201d for Belarus, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.karty.by\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Sebastian-Munster_1552_basel_Nouvelle-description-de-Poloigne-Hongri.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">while the Moscow Princedom is called \u201cMoscovia.<\/a>\u201d (karty.by)  color<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.karty.by\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/x-moskovie_1723.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1723 Ukraine and Moscovia on same map<\/a> Polish &#038; russian <a href=\"http:\/\/www.karty.by\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/moskovai.Herman-Moll-1723.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ukraine and Moskovia 1723 <\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/russiawarinukraine\/comments\/37tryg\/muscovy_the_name_of_the_grand_duchy_of_moscow\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">More proofs<\/a><br \/>\n\tHakluyt, Richard, 1552?-1616<br \/>\nTitle\t<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/ebooks\/4076\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Discovery of Muscovy<\/a><br \/>\nLanguage\tEnglish<br \/>\nLoC Class\tDK: History: General and Eastern Hemisphere: Russia, Former Soviet Republics, Poland<br \/>\nSubject\tWilloughby, Hugh, Sir, d. 1554<br \/>\nSubject\tChancellor, Richard, d. 1556<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/euromaidanpress.com\/2014\/05\/14\/how-moscow-hijacked-the-history-of-kyivan-rus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">How muscovy hijacked history Kyvian Rus<\/a><\/p>\n<p>While there was Muscovy, there never was, is , and will be a country named &#8220;russia&#8221;.<br \/>\nRussia is NO country, it&#8217;s offical name is Russian Federation (RF) a unvoluntary federation of 85 parts of which Muscovy\/Moscow is the parasite.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/vgolos.com.ua\/articles\/rosiya_znykne_todi_koly_my_monopolizuiemo_istoriyu_kyivskoi_rusi_223333.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Name &#8220;Russia&#8221; will disappear when Ukraine monopolizes history of Kyvian Rus<\/a> , then it will be again Muscovy&#8230;rofl ol<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/translate.googleusercontent.com\/translate_c?depth=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;prev=_t&#038;rurl=translate.google.com&#038;sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;u=http:\/\/vgolos.com.ua\/articles\/rosiya_znykne_todi_koly_my_monopolizuiemo_istoriyu_kyivskoi_rusi_223333.html&#038;usg=ALkJrhgY67mi8WCvMVnViPcR9p_LC6gcvA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Translate to english<\/a><\/p>\n<p>================================================<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>http:\/\/empr.media\/culture\/history\/first-mentioned-ukraine-russia-not-exists\/ https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/russiawarinukraine\/comments\/37tryg\/muscovy_the_name_of_the_grand_duchy_of_moscow\/ ================================================= Name RUS- Russia is stolen from Ukraine, so I revert to old name. (but now i was blocked on wikipedia trying to keep that name and facts about it!?- whats more important, wikipedia admins, facts or rules) The name of the Grand Duchy of Moscow, changed for Russia by Tsar Peter I &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/2017\/03\/03\/why-we-call-it-muscovy-war-and-not-russiarf-war\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Why we call it Muscovy war and not russia\/RF war  ?<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1348","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-russia-ukriane"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1348","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1348"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1348\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1962,"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1348\/revisions\/1962"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1348"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1348"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/krantvannederland.nl\/discuss\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1348"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}